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10. How to become a Member of NCRUG
The Group is concerned with:
- TRAIN SERVICES: the following services
Train Operating Co
- (Llandudno -) Chester - Manchester via Warrington Bank Quay Arriva Trains Wales
- Ellesmere Port - Helsby - Warrington Bank Quay - Liverpool Lime
St Northern Trains
- Chester - Runcorn Main Line via Frodsham and the
Halton Curve Northern Trains
- STATIONS:
Station Operator
- FRODSHAM
(Live Departures Board at Frodsham)
Arriva Trains Wales
- INCE & ELTON (Live
Departures Board at Ince & Elton) Northern Trains
- HELSBY (Live
Departures Board for Helsby) Arriva Trains Wales
- RUNCORN EAST (Live Departures
Board for Runcorn East) Arriva Trains Wales
- STANLOW & THORNTON (and Departures at
Stanlow & Thornton) Northern Trn
- and other stations, but only with respect to the services named above:
e.g. Chester, Ellesmere Port, Warrington, Earlestown et cetera.
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2. GENERAL AIMS of NCRUG
- 1 To promote the use of the services and stations named in the Scope above. NCRUG
believes that the use of local rail services should be encouraged both for
environmental and social reasons.
- 2 To act as a communications channel between Arriva
Trains Wales (ATW) and, where relevant, also with Northern Trains Trains (NT) and the customers of both these TOC's.
- 3 And where necessary to act as a communications channel between
Network Rail
and users of the local stations.
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3. WAYS NCRUG WORKS TO PROMOTE ITS AIMS
- 1 NCRUG holds regular meetings with ATW and Passenger
Focus to discuss the train services and other
related matters, e.g. station facilities; fares; availability of information.
- 2 NCRUG also liaises with Cheshire County Council
Transport Co-ordination Department, Vale Royal, Ellesmere Port & Neston
Borough Councils, and also the unitary authorities - Halton and Warrington
Borough Councils. There is also liaison with Helsby Parish Council and
Frodsham Town Council.
- 3 It campaigns for better services. NCRUG has been very concerned about
the NT services to Ellesmere Port. [see 5 below], and has launched an initiative
to see if the "Parry People Mover" concept is applicable to this
service.
- 4 It continues to campaign for a re-introduction of regular week-day services
on the line from Frodsham Jn to Halton Jn, giving a service from Chester,
Helsby & Frodsham to Runcorn and South Liverpool stations. As part of this
NCRUG maintains a vigilant monitoring of the remaining Summer Saturdays Only
service. Recently we have been encouraged by the developments concerning the
re-activation of services over the Halton
Curve [see 4 below].
- 5 It maintains good contacts with NT in Manchester, and
strives to maintain good contacts with ATW in Chester, and where appropriate
with ATW's head office in Cardiff. With help from Passenger Focus there is regular contact and communication with ATW and NT.
- 6 Because of its work with stations, NCRUG has become affiliated
to ACoRP (The Association of Community Rail Partnerships).
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- 1 The principal reason that NCRUG came into existence
was to campaign for the re-instatement of a proper through service over the
Halton Curve. Back in the 1950's the principal services from Helsby and
Frodsham were over this curve, with only a few trains each day to Manchester.
The daily services were withdrawn in the 1970's, many of which had only gone
as far as Helsby, not Chester. This left the summer Saturday service from
North Wales to Liverpool, and then this was cut back to what we have now, a
service going only in one direction as far as Runcorn (BR/Network Rail having taken the
diamonds out at the junctions to save money, leaving single
lead junctions without crossovers).
- 2 A few years ago NCRUG drew a proposal regarding the reinstatement of the service over the "Halton Curve".
This saw the advantage of a through service between Liverpool and North Wales,
obviating the need to change at Chester, and giving a reduction in journey
time of just over half an hour on a journey from Llandudno to Liverpool - as well as the benefits to residents in Frodsham
and Helsby in once again having a through service to Liverpool. This proposal was included both in Cheshire's Local Transport
Plan. Halton Borough also had it in their Local Transport Plan. Halton BC is
actively pursuing a new station at Beechwood on the Halton Curve. This would be
close to the bus garage facilitating interchange with Runcorn's well-known
busways and would allow a significant modal switch of traffic
crossing the River Mersey.
- 3 We continue to press for proposed services over the Halton Curve,
e.g. Bangor or Llandudno to Liverpool, and Cardiff to Liverpool via Shrewsbury,
Wrexham, Chester and Runcorn.
- 4 However the main difficulties with these ideas were:
(a) a shortage of rolling stock: already many trains are only 2/3-car units and
are overcrowded; (b) making the Halton Curve bi-directional, if not double
line.
- 5 Then in the summer of 2004, the SRA let it be known
that it proposed to close the line. The justification being given as the upgrade
of the West Coast Main Line Liverpool branch, as part of the West Coast Route
Modernisation (WCRM) project, having insufficient funding. This project includes
re-signaling of
the line, with the closure of Halton Junction signalbox. The SRA stated
that it would cost £5.0 million to replace the junctions and upgrade the signaling, as against £0.5 million to remove the junctions, and that it
didn't have sufficient money in the WCRM budget to cover this work. The track bed
would be maintained. After considerable lobbying by Merseytravel (Merseyside
PTE) and other local authorities concerned, the proposal has been withdrawn,
and we await the outcome. In the midst of all this a letter from NCRUG's
Chairman, John Hobbs, was published in RAIL Magazine ridiculing the
SRA's decision, which prompted a response from Jim Steer of the SRA, with then
a further response from John. To NCRUG it seems irrational to close this line when
Liverpool John Lennon Airport is expanding, the Liverpool South Parkway
station has been built, and millions are being spent on a feasibility study of
how to build a new Runcorn-Widnes road bridge (the so-called "Mersey
Second Crossing").
- 6 None of the above takes into account freight and
other workings over the line. There has been regular ballast train
workings, and the royal train continues to work regularly over the Halton
Curve.
- 7 The last service in 2004, on 25 September - the 08.25
Chester - Runcorn had 102 passengers! Many of these then traveled back on a special vintage
bus chartered by NCRUG. We await to a positive result by 2010.
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- 1 Prior to the Merseyrail Electric service being extended to Ellesmere Port
in the mid-1990s, there had been a good service on this line, which was reasonably
well used. However after the electrification there was a 2-hourly service
through to Liverpool via Warrington, that alternated with one from Chester.
That lasted about a year, since when there has been the present very
inadequate service of two trips morning and evening; each trip being half an
hour apart.
- 2 NCRUG drew up a proposal for reinvigorating the service.
This was a through service from Hooton to Manchester, and was published at the
end of 1998. Throughout 1999 discussions were held with FNW. A partnership of
NCRUG, Ellesmere Port & Neston Borough Council, Cheshire County Council
and the Members of Parliament for Ellesmere Port and Weaver Vale was formed to
promote this. Unfortunately nothing came of this plan.
- 3 There is much housing and industry along the line which provide
opportunities for train service development. Unfortunately the TOC, Northern
Rail, are reluctant to take this on, largely constrained by the way funding is
determined through their franchise agreement.
- 4 Following the success of the use of the Parry People Mover (PPM) on the
Stourbridge Junction - Stourbridge Town shuttle (see
Parry's web site for
details), NCRUG invited Mr Parry of Parry Associates to address the possibility of using such a
vehicle on the Helsby - Ellesmere Port shuttle. As well as addressing NCRUG's
AGM in October 2007, a party from NCRUG together with Mr Parry undertook a
trip on the line. Mr Parry's view was that the line would be suitable for
operation by the machines developed by Parry Associates since the length,
gradients and traffic potential were appropriate.
- 5 NCRUG has taken up this initiative (the use of a PPM) with local
stakeholders, councils and the TOC. It is thought that the project would
require an investment in the order of £2.4M. NCRUG will continue to pursue
this as a viable alternative to the present desultory service which would be
cheap to operate and give a usable frequent service.
- 6 The NCRUG committee hopes to make a visit to Stourbridge to see a PPM
vehicle in operation; and then again when new vehicles begin operating over
the line in December 2008.
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- 1 NCRUG publishes local timetables and other
information. It distributes ATW's timetables to local public libraries and
issues the timetables at local stations.
- 2
NCRUG continues to strive for the re-development of proposals for improvements
to Frodsham
station, This is in conjunction with Frodsham Town Council, Vale Royal Borough
Council, Cheshire County Council (which will soon be split into two
authorities) and other parties. Unfortunately progress has been slow
due to the lack of support from Network Rail's property division, Spacia.
- 3 In 1997 NCRUG took on responsibility for the station gardens at
Helsby. In 1999 the station was short listed in two of the finals categories for the Railtrack
"Station of the Year Competition", but in 2000 won the "Most
Passenger Friendly Unstaffed Station" award. Then in 2003 the station won
the "Best Kept Station in Cheshire" Award. In 2001 a group from
NCRUG started similar work at Frodsham station. In 2002, the town of Frodsham was
entered in the "Northwest in Bloom" contest organised by the Tidy
Britain Group. As part of this NCRUG planted over 1500 geraniums on Frodsham
station, and the town won first prize in the "Small Market Town"
category, and NCRUG was specially commended. Then, not to be outdone, in 2002
a group started work at Runcorn East. For further details, see below in
section 7.
- 4 NCRUG has consistently won prizes in the Best Kept Cheshire stations
competition, at both Helsby and Frodsham, and so has featured in Cheshire
Life magazine. Again in 2007 both stations won awards presented in
January 2008.
- 5
NCRUG made comments to Railtrack/ Network Rail Property (Spacia) about the situation with
the Grade II listed buildings at Helsby, which were not covered by the Railtrack Station Regeneration
Programme in 1999. NCRUG maintained a contact with
Railtrack NW Zone about the Station Regeneration Programme, the completion
of the main part coincided with NCRUG's Open Day at Helsby. Comments
were fed back to Railtrack, and as a result the area of platforms 2/3 to
be resurfaced with new paving was extended to the whole platform area. In April
2001 the Railway Heritage Trust came to both Helsby and Frodsham to
discuss with Spacia the possibility of grants for improvements to the
buildings. As a consequence in August 2001 the chimney at the south end of the
building on platforms 2/3 was repaired, and then in late 2002 both the
signalbox and the old waiting room on the island platform were refurbished
with support of grants from the Railway Heritage Trust. This project won a
prize for railway restoration projects, and work has continued since to
improve the situation.
- 6 NCRUG over a long period pressed Railtrack to bring platform 1 at Helsby "within
gauge".
It is more than half a metre below the train steps, and accidents have happened in the
past with people falling. As a result Helsby was one of 116 stations surveyed by
Raltrack in order to assist in developing its future policy on improvements to
station platforms. We were told that Railtrack would carry out remedial work
in 2002/3, but with the demise of Railtrack, nothing came of it, but we
continue to press for improvement..
- 7 We have also discussed the matter of the car park at
Helsby which is frequently full. In June 2000, Railtrack stated that work would be
carried out during the current financial year. Unfortunately First North
Western were only prepared to pay their part of the costs by introducing a
parking charge scheme administered by contractors, with all that that would
entail, e.g. wheel clamping. NCRUG said that this would aggravate the
situation rather than improve it. Parking continues to be a problem, and
although the car park has been marked out, it would appear that an efficient
plan was chosen; we continue to make representations.
- 8 As part of NCRUG's proposals for improvements to the facilities at
Frodsham and Helsby stations, we proposed that the awning should be
re-installed on Platform 1 at Helsby to provide a shelter. The proposal was
to be jointly funded
by Railtrack out of their matched funding budget, Helsby Parish Council
and Cheshire County Council. After an initial completion date of September
1998 as part of Railtrack's SRP programme, the awning (canopy) was eventually
completed on 3 February 1999.
- 9 On 26 September 1998, NCRUG (in association with North Western Trains) held
an Open Day at Helsby station. Over 500 people came: Many local people coming
to the station for the first time in years. Many were surprised at the train
services on offer.
- 10 In May 2000, FNW decided to start charging the
Chester - Liverpool via Warrington fare for those travelling from Helsby,
rather than the one given in the fares manual. Apart from being very much
more expensive, there were a lot of problems because the tickets were
route specific. NCRUG held discussions with FNW, and the correct fare was re-instated.
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- 1 The group publishes a newsletter four times a year.
This is distributed free to members of the group.
- 2 The group holds an AGM in October. This is usually
held at a venue in Frodsham or Helsby.
- 3 Other meetings are held from to time to time as
necessary. The committee meets monthly, usually on the third Tuesday of every month
in the "Golden Lion" pub in Main Street, Frodsham at 1930. Observers are welcome by
prior notification to the secretary.
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In June 1997 NCRUG concluded an agreement with FNW to take on the responsibility for
the maintenance of the gardens at Helsby, and the group is now affiliated to the
British Trust for Conservation Volunteers (BTCV) inter alia for insurance
purposes. This agreement and insurance is also valid for work on other stations,
and in January 2001 the group started regular work at Frodsham, and then in 2002
also at Runcorn East. Subsequently insurance was provided by ATW as part of
their Station Adopters scheme.
The OBJECTIVES of these projects are:
- 1 To bring about a greater awareness in the local communities
of the train services available, and to get people back on to the trains.
- 2 We wished to demonstrate to the railway industry that we
were seriously committed to the railway; we weren't just a "whingeing"
group - a criticism levelled at some rail user groups.
- 3 The station gardens at Helsby were once the pride of the line, and it is our
intention to make them so once again. With the work done by Network Rail and ATW
we intend
to make the local railway station a pleasant place to be, where waiting for the train
will be enjoyable. This is also the aim at Frodsham. The gardens there are small,
and the main problem has been vandalism and graffiti. Nevertheless it is our aim
to have this station as also a place which the local community can be proud of
and their railway station, and the intending passenger will feel comfortable. While there are no flower beds at Runcorn East,
there is a lot of landscaping - shrubs, etc - which is now improved, and we
continue to implement initiatives here.
- 4 Regular working parties are held at each of these three stations. If you
would like to be involved, please contact us via the information given in
section 10 below.
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9. LIAISON WITH OTHER BODIES.
- NCRUG is a member of RailFuture, which seeks to
promote the use of the railways - both for passengers and freight.
- NCRUG is affiliated to the Association of Community Rail Partnerships (ACoRP)
in view of its work at the three stations.
- NCRUG regularly liaises with local authority groups: Cheshire County Council
Transport Co-ordination; Borough Councils; Town and Parish Councils.
- NCRUG maintains links with other rail user groups - notably Mid Cheshire Rail
Users' Association (responsible for the Chester - Manchester via Northwich and
Altrincham service), and the Friends of Eccles station (FRECCLES), etc.
- NCRUG also regularly attends the Passenger Focus meetings,
and participates in their Rail User Group Conference held each year.
Other links, worth referring to:
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10. MEMBERSHIP of NCRUG & CONTACTS
Membership of the North Cheshire Rail Users' Group costs £4
a year per family, or corporate membership costs £5. Apply to the Membership
Secretary, 10 Hillfield, FRODSHAM WA6 6DA Tel: 01928 - 732142 E-mail: Membership@ncrug.org.uk
Other Contacts:
Hon Secretary: Cedric Green, 24, Caldy Road, West
Kirby, Wirral CH48 2HG
E-Mail:
Secretary@ncrug.org.uk
Chairman of NCRUG: Janet
Briggs, 10 Hillfield, FRODSHAM WA6 6DA
Tel: 0192
8
- 732142 E-mail:
Chairman@ncrug.org.uk
Public Relations & Publicity:
Frank Thomas, 14, Chester Road,
Helsby. FRODSHAM WA6 0EZ
Tel & Fax: 01928 - 722179
or
E-Mail:
Pressofficer@ncrug.org.uk
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